Joined Ganges Feb '61..went through the same as everyone else. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. If you cracked on and didn't buckle you were okay, but I wouldn't want to do it again. Martin Foster, 54, of Haig Road, Uxbridge, had already admitted two charges of fraud by abuse of position. This was followed by a leap from the diving board, as high as any tree I'd ever climbed, wearing the waterlogged boiler suit and a lifejacket. NO FLOWERS FOR GEORDIE, HE'S NOT HERE TODAYTHE SEA HAS CLAIMED MY GEORDIE BOYPLEASE NO FLOWERS TODAYFIFTEEN YEARS OF LEARNING, HE'LL NOT GO DOWN THE MINESO WE TOOK HIM NEAR TO IPSWICH TOWNFAR FROM THE SEAMS OF THE TYNEIN A PLACE THEY STILL CALL 'GANGES' WITH TWO THOUSAND OTHER BOYSHE LEARNED TO SPLICE AND SAIL A BOATTALL ORDERS WERE HIS TOYSTHE 'BULLY BOYS' CAME NIGHTLY, DID THINGS A BOY COUNDN'T TELLBUT THEY MADE HIM WRITE IN HIS LETTERS HOME MAMMA YOU'R BOY'S DOIN WELLTHEN NEWS CAME OF SOME FIGHTING IN A FAR OFF DISTANT LANDWE NEED THOSE BOYS THUS SPAKE FOUR RINGSIN OUR BIG SHIPS THEY CAN RIDEIT'S WRITTEN ON HIS PAPERS, TWAS NOT THE DEED OF A MAN BUT A WAVE THAT TOOK MY GEORDIE BOYFIVE MILES OFF PLYMOUTH SOUNDSO NO FLOWERS FOR GEORDIE HE'S NOT HERE TODAY THE SEA HAS CLAIMED MY GEORDIE BOYPLEASE NO FLOWERS TODAY. A history of the Royal Navy Training Establishment HMS Ganges. 1959 and what a bugger Ganges turned out to be. When the Gunnery Instructor was finally satisfied, you put the lot back in your locker as before. 1905. Helpful. It closed in 1998 or something. This punishment was something I never witnessed and can only describe from what other boys told me. The overall height is 143 feet 10 inches, with the button being 11 inches diameter and 3 inches thick. Roe told me "I don't like you." They say you never forget the place and I agree. Steve Tarr. According to the HMS Ganges Museum, her timbers were used to make objects including a grand staircase on an estate, and a cocktail bar in a small hotel, both in Devon. HP10 9TY. Discussions between developers and Babergh District Council planning officers have been concluded five years after plans for the huge project were given outline planning permission in December 2015. While I probably believed the stories, I was still determined to quality for my chain. 2023 BBC. View of the iconic mast at the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. This was where the roped rigging jutted out some ten feet - above it, the platform. However lessons, culminating in a test, were much more difficult. Mr Davis added: They have had the last conditions, including the fire hydrants agreed. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. During the third disastrous week, it spent so much time on the deck I thought I might as well leave it there! Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please St George IOM Boys training 3/5/45 Christmas leave 45 took all kit and returned to Ipswich station, then by the ubiquitous 3 ton Bedford to Shotley where we reopened HMS Ganges as a boys establishment. As Rudyard Kipping wrote in his famous poem IF the you will be a man my son. She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. For more information, please see our Privacy Policy, Please enter a password with 6 characters or more. Captain Tremlett, the Senior Officer of training ships, was ordered to investigate the situation and reported that Commander Stevens 'had given punishments . HP10 9TY. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. ", The sailors in training doing exercises outside the gym (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). The mast has been a local landmark since it was. Charles Dickens might have penned it the best of times and the worst of times. We were ordered to turn around and bend over, if the instructor was satisfied we were clean, we were allowed out. St George IOM Boys training 3/5/45 Christmas leave 45 took all kit and returned to Ipswich station, then by the ubiquitous 3 ton Bedford to Shotley where we reopened HMS Ganges as a boys establishment. She was the last wooden wall ship to be a flagship, and the last to sail around cape horn unassisted. The lower portion of the mast is steel, extending 18 feet (5.5 m) below ground and 30 feet (9.1 m) above ground. They were both Ordinary Seamen, one aged 17 and the other aged 18. The master at arms held a long thin bamboo cane, the instrument of the punishment. I would imagine it will be a number of years before we see the final product but Ive seen first hand how quickly they can actually make progress once the builders get going. He was fondling my right cheek as I tried to concentrate on pipping. Dec 30, 2016. The number of air raids at Shotley began to increase dramatically and its ratings soon had to go to the air . Maurice was nothing to do with HMS Ganges, in fact he had been a crew member of HMS Hambledon. It was at Shotley Point that the wooden ship HMS Ganges was berthed from 1899, and used as a cadet training ship for the Royal Navy. The showers usually took place at the crack of dawn, summer or winter we ran from the barrack towel around our waist to the showers. He was quite good too. I was at Ganges in 1955 and went to visit Shotley in 2005 and was surprised to see police signs near the old swimming baths. In the first week of January it was snowed even harder and it snowed until March. He was sentenced at Portsmouth Crown Court. After such a long time I think it will be a welcome relief for a lot of people. HMS Ganges had a reputation for its harsh discipline. Ken said: It was a dreadful winter. Two other ratings are recorded as 'drowning' whilst on the books of HMS Ganges and both were in 1944. A planning application for the site was submitted and outline permission was granted in 2015. "They had a hard life, but they were fed and looked after. As a matter of interest how many of you did your 22 and beyond not many I suspect therefore you look back with nostalgia, fcuking hated the place and made certain I never treated any of my guys the same as the youngsters were treated there. Some boys were home sick, some just tried to stay out of trouble, one or two ran away. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to Below are just some of our members who have served at HMS Ganges. I was sent to the training Ship HMS Ganges a cruel harsh 12 months lay ahead of me and thousands of other boys. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. At Gagnes they spent 12 months training, and they learned everything you need to do to run a ship. The kindly chef asked me whether I intended to eat the mountain of food I'd heaped on my plate or climb it! One not only suffered the punishment such as doubling up and down the steps of laundry hill with a 303 rifle held high. HMS Ganges being broken up after training was transferred to the land base at Shotley (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). John Garrett. Shotly Jan 7 1967 , 4 weeks in the annex, 11months in the main establishment,left the RN after 26 years, as C.C.MEA(P) and you could tell Ganges trained men a mile off, Regrets not a bit.Sorry for the lad in my class that drank a pint of pussers disinfectant (The black stuff that turned white when you added water) I believe he got his Discharge. Jim Gitsham, chairman of the Shotley branch of the HMS Ganges Association, said: "Members will be delighted that he's going down. CLICK ABOVE TO OPEN GALLERY. The rest of the class were not pleased to suffer because of one boys stupidity and sometimes made a cruel point of letting the culprit know. We were ushered in as a group of naked boys and told to wash thoroughly. Maybe we were unlucky with Instructors as one was Court Marshalled, discharged and sent to prison for so called abuse. A Gannett Company. "In 1860 she was decommissioned and laid up, and in 1866 she was turned into a training ship, and her guns were removed. The latest development means that construction work could start immediately, however, due to the coronavirus outbreak, progress has been delayed. 1937. 1927. in the RN with the nickname Doc. It was easy to spot those who had been here the longest. This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. Babergh District councillor Ganges, Derek Davis, said: From my own personal perspective I have seen how closely our officers and our planning team have worked with the owners of the site and I can imagine that once the lockdown is over and the guys get started, progress will be made very quickly. They looked smarter, more confident, or even downright dejected. Graduating from Ganges held the promise of better times ahead, we would be real sailors, excited at the prospect of visiting far off and exotic lands. Posted on February 5, 2019 by irishroverpei. The HMS Ganges Museum previously said restorers would remove the wooden part of the mast for refurbishment off site and they would then check the condition of the steel lower mast. and for those of you who served at ganges and who have't joined the association go on..nothing to lose and you'll find a lot of old shipmates there!! Discipline was severe, routine constant and fear of punishment loomed at every turn. The facility remained there until its closure in June 1976, He went on to be an SD subby. Ganges Tales of the T.R.O.G.s Paperback - 22 Nov. 1995 by John Douglas (Author), John Wheatley (Illustrator) 6 ratings Paperback 12.00 8 Used from 8.90 H.M.S. But, because of the lockdown nothing has really moved and I think, even though construction workers havent leagally been told theyre not allowed to do anything, the owners are a bit reluctant to move. Padre Weekes was always good for a fag and Jim Conroy (PTI) taught me to yodel. A Gannett Company. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. This page is dedicated to the memory of Tony whose commitment to the Royal Navy and especially HMS Ganges was unlimited. After initial training we were marched from the training camp. Contents 1 Foundation and early history 1.1 Allegations of abuse 2 Ganges at Harwich 3 Ganges at Shotley 3.1 1906 changes 3.2 Later developments 3.3 First World War 3.4 Post war developments 3.5 Ganges in the Second World War 3.6 Postwar and closure 4 References 5 External links Each of us was required to construct a printing block using letters carved in wood. (LogOut/ CPO (OPS) (EW) Served from 1966 - 1991 Served in HMS Ganges. For breakfast porridge was on offer, that salt-coated gruel I'd been forced to eat every morning of my schoolboy days. RO1 (T) Served from 1970 - 1975 Served in HMS Ganges. Standing at 143ft, the mast is made up of three main parts; the main 75ft mast came from HMS Cordelia, a steam corvette built in Portsmouth, the top mast of 47.5 ft wooden ruffle box from HMS Agincourt, which was renamed HMS Boscawen, and then Ganges II. The former treasurer of a naval veterans' organisation has been jailed for 18 months after nearly 80,000 was withdrawn from its accounts. I knew that once the weather was respectable, when it was no longer dangerous, my skinny little skeleton would be transported, step by trembling step, up that perilous rigging. The HMS Ganges training base, which opened in 1905, closed in 1976 and has remained . Royal Navy 238217 Boy 2nd Class HMS Ganges II. In attendance was a senior officer, medical officer and the master at arms. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. After eating I dashed down to the boat sheds to report for my test. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. Welcome Guest. Sailors' uniforms were a familiar sight in our area until HMS Ganges closed in June 1976. The water was freezing cold, we never had hot water. The boy was made lower his trousers, but kept is underpants on, he was made to bend over a chair. Crowds of boys from HMS Ganges would visit Ipswich when they were given a day off from the harsh naval discipline at Shotley. Its really difficult to give a definitive time scale but once things get going I would imagine that progress will be very visible whereas a lot of the work going on over the past two or three years hasnt necessarily been seen by the public.. 1976. The Cattlemarket area of Ipswich would be busy at weekends with boys in full naval uniform. Rather than do the two as a pongo I signed on the dotted line for a dozen , best thing I ever did and I regret not staying in for the full time . She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. contact the editor here. The association said it had about 3,000 members and at the time of the offences its income from membership fees was about 30,000 a year. Mr Jones also offered reassurance around the historic mast, despite fears about its dilapidated state. First time ever looking at any RN sights. Did my intro to Pusser at HMS Raleigh in ' 52 . I took a bowl and ate the lot. "Most of what was on the site went to the naval museum in Portsmouth, but we have the honours board and figurehead from the original ship. Jon Sparks. they said. the reason i remember the date is that it was my 15th birthday, We got shipped out to Suez in October 1956 cutting short our training by a couple of months. contact the editor here. HMS Ganges is a little bit different though, because they have to get the spine road in first and do some prep work. He was the officer that tested us when we endeavoured to qualify with a bosuns pipe. The pipe (whistle) was used aboard ship for passing orders and instructions. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships since from 1779, but in 1905 it was chosen as title for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. First Royal Navy ship to visit Eire, post independence? Read about our approach to external linking. Download Citation | On Feb 1, 2023, Olivier Champagne and others published Future change in amplitude and timing of high-flow events in a Canadian subarctic watershed | Find, read and cite all the . I knew a gentleman who said when he was at Ganges in 1947 he had his first taste of hot food. The Admiralty decided that the shore base should bear the name of the original training ship, HMS Ganges. Ganges Museum is located at Shotley Gate near Ipswich, in what was the Enright Block, on the foreshore of the former H.M.S. I knew only when it was over would I then be able to call myself a true Ganges Boy and, some years later, a real sailor. Thus was the nature of Ganges harsh training regime. Other things we had to do included, clean a toilet with a toothbrush, polish a hundred square feet of block-wood flooring with a boot brush every night before going to bed, paint the inside of a dustbin white before putting your rubbish into it. By creating an account you agree to us emailing you with newsletters and discounts, which you can switch off in your account at any time. 1905 to 1976 saw 150,000 recruits pass through HMS Ganges. To get out of the showers we had to stand before our instructor legs apart arms raised for inspection. You are using an out of date browser. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). Was anything in this navy free from fear? Im quite sure few if any boys receiving cuts ever thought to run away again. An appeal by Woolverstone Parish Council was turned down two years later. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. There's something to be said for finding how finding out how good you are at living with other people, and finding respect for yourself. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). During Ganges's time in Cornwall allegations of harsh and brutal treatment were reported to the Admiralty.One wardroom steward shot himself over the matter, and the reports aroused indignation in the local community. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. HMS Ganges Museum is dedicated to the 160,000 boys who went through the gates as boys and marched out as men, from its inception as a Royal Navy Training Establishment in 1905 to its closure in 1976. BBC Blue Peter presenter John Noakes attempted to climb to the top of the mast. LEADING SEAMAN Served from 1961 - 1970 Served in HMS Ganges. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. They faced what was without doubt the most severe punishment, cuts. Im here as my Son (15) wants to join the RN - Wellbeck route AIB soon. Justin I saw the mast fully manned three times and it was a wonderful sight to see as it was so well choreographed and I was always amazed how the button boy could even get onto the button, when there was a breeze the mast moved a few good feet at the top of it and as I said all he had to hold onto was a knee high lighting conductor. He was subsequently dismissed from the service and returned to civilian life. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. My heart sank and my elation evaporated as I desperately tried to quash all fears of my body falling from the Devil's Elbow. In 1907, its famous 143ft (44m)-high training . Well this seems a good time to see if this site works properly. MT2 Served from 1965 - 2021 Served in HMS Ganges. At about 60 feet was the Devil's Elbow, the most dangerous and frightening part. Outbreak of World War One. In 1905 when the Ganges vessel was finally retired (and towed away to Chatham), the training facility, still named HMS Ganges, moved ashore. When I say there was sexual abuse Im speaking from personal experience. It began snowing on Boxing Day. interesting .. photos of the old pool. The Royal Naval Training Establishment Shotley (known within the Royal Navy as HMS Ganges) was established in southern Suffolk in 1905. Nevertheless, as bad and as cruel as I have describe Ganges, I remain proud to call myself a Ganges Boy. The HMS Ganges site was initially opened in 1904 acted as a boys training facility for the Royal Navy. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It was hoped that Developers Haylink Ltd would start work early this year, but their plans were scuppered by the Covid-19 pandemic. On the remainder of the command 'Bayonets' the left hand pulled the bayonet from the scabbard, placed it on the barrel of the rifle and, with a quick twist of the wrist, secured it in place. Among his many punishments, he suffered cuts, a particularly brutal form of Naval punishment. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's I would like to see the mast and museum moved to the safety of HMS Raleigh though to ensure its upkeep and maintenance. The money belonged to the HMS Ganges Association for people who served at the former naval training base at Shotley Gate near Ipswich, Suffolk. I allowed my head to tilt backward, sending my gaze to the very top, to the lightning conductor where the Button Boy stood on ceremonial occasions. HMS Ganges is situated on the Shotley Peninsula in Suffolk. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please May 46 to HMS Wakeful, Training Flotilla for a twelve-week tour from . The test consisted of two lengths of the pool while wearing a boiler suit, then floating for five minutes. Back in the mess, this safe haven shielding us from those torturous sounds, the junior instructors' suspiciously cheerful faces greeted us. Former recruit John Youngman said it would be "nice to see it restored to its former glory". Speaking about the current state of the site, Mr Jones said: "All of the messes have been demolished, as have the laundry and the generators. Didn't like it, there are better ways of teaching than violence, but it hardened me up and made me self disciplined. what an incredible article, thanks for that dave, how far did you get up that mast? HMS Ganges 2 in the harbour put all boys ashore and was then used as Naval Operations Ship, Harwich. 2023 BBC. Martin Foster, 54, of Haig Road, Uxbridge, had already admitted two charges of fraud by abuse of position. Many spars are believed to have come from this ship too. Welcome to our next documentary, investigating the decaying remains and iconic abandoned swimming pool of HMS Ganges Royal Naval training school, as well as . It may not display this or other websites correctly. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. AboutPressCopyrightContact. Who would have believed us, this was 1955 words like pedophile and sexual abuse were unheard of. It was as we crossed the parade ground the whole bunch of us suddenly froze and spun to face a huge aircraft-hanger-of-a-building running along its length. The skipper was HS McKenzie who went FOSM. Editors' Code of Practice. At the tip of the Shotley peninsular sits a cluster of abandoned buildings that were once home to hundreds of young lads right at the start of their lives at sea. First Royal Navy ship to visit Eire, post independence? We can reunite you with your friends who served at HMS Ganges and we have a wealth of information on different units, bases and ships in the site. Used to have chats with old Tick-Tock and RPO Salmon gave me my 1 postal order when the max was really ten bob. HMS Ganges. The cold water often caused some boys to duck in and out of the water quickly or sometimes not at all. joined in '63 Dreadnought in the Annexe and Duncan in main camp, Went swimming at Vincent before colling-grad got its pool, and sailing if my memory is not totally shot, I sometimes considered climbing to the top of the mast a tossing myself off. Researched and compiled by A. S. Grimmer (Solent Division) who sadly crossed the bar 6th January 2007. Hetzner Online GmbH, Industriestrasse 25, D-91710 Gunzenhausen, Germany +49 9831 505-0 abuse@hetzner.com. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. He deserted on numerous occasions and willfully disobeyed orders . This portion was taken from the foremast of the corvette Cordelia which was paid off . Rumour had it many years ago a boy did fall, bouncing off the safety net and through the Post Office roof. Offenders, known in the Navy as "defaulters", were mustered every morning and went before the Captain for a formal hearing, where they could be "awarded" up to 12 "cuts" -- very hard strokes of the top rung of a six foot ladder is about my limit! If not, you would do it repeatedly, until you dropped dead if necessary. The next six years passed with regular naval detentions, ( Royal Naval Detention Quarters RNDQs Portsmouth) exhausting punishments, solitary confinements, ending with a twelve month sentence in the infamous HMP Corradino, Malta. Learn how your comment data is processed. CEM1 Served from 1972 - 1978 Served in HMS Ganges. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. . Boys were permitted to march through the streets of Ipswich with bayonets fixed. 1907. Review of a book of anecdotes about legendary UK boys' naval establishment HMS Ganges, which at any one time housed as many as 2,000 trainee sailors in their middle teens. I wondered, sewing, perhaps! Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS (Image: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS). JavaScript is disabled. The inquiry was carried out by Hampshire Police after debit card transactions of 4,200 and cash machine withdrawals totalling 74,000 were made from the association's bank accounts between August 2010 and June 2012. Peter Cook. There was one hell to come, the Ganges mast! It was hard, often . Welcome to Forces Reunited the place where you can find information and friends from HMS Ganges. later times). Indeed, I have never met a shipmate would ever claim otherwise. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. We caught up with Jim Dines, Director of TS Rigging, whose team. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. First the older of the two, Maurice WRIGHT JX 657902. Boys normally signed up to a contract of 12 years, which would leave most of them aged in their late 20s after their tours. It would seem those boy-sailors who were seconds ago shoving sausages into smiling faces, had all disappeared into that terrifying building, and by the cries belching from its belly were being eaten alive. Sadists most of them and that's from a 15 year old who was in a council care home before he joined, streetwise to fcuk and kept my head down. Read about our approach to external linking. Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. Observer career path/ real life experience. There was also a degree of sexual abuse going on at Ganges, but we boys were too scared to ever complain or report such incidents. Every letter, every strip of tape had to be in a perfect line. LRO (G) Served from 1975 - 1998 Served in HMS Ganges. Read about our approach to external linking. [1] Every new recruit was required to climb it, not to the very top but to the half moon, about thirty-feet from the top. 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